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May 20, 2011

A day as a pilot

Foreword:

Okay, so sorry I exaggerated in my title. I had possibility to spent three hours in fly simulator. My wife gave to me a birthday gift which I’ll never forget, to learn to fly a commercial aircraft DC-9 in a simulator.

Background:

Those who have read my About me page, know that my career was among aviation and I made part of ground personnel. During five years I was flying onboard as a flying officer. That meant that I was sent here and there around the world to survey ground handling at destinations and to make balance and load sheet calculations for our airplanes. During these years I sat in cockpit, but mainly in Super Caravelle, and observed how pilots were flying. Many times I thought that it would be wonderful to fly an airplane. The farthest destination, where I went as a flying officer was Buenos Aires.

The big day:

On Monday May 9th, 2011, the day after my birth day, I drove with my wife to Finnair’s Flight Academy nearby the Helsinki-Vantaa airport. I was a little bit nervous without any reason, because at the destination we were met heartily by ex-pilot which I knew before from my working days.

After some recollection of old good days, he my instructor (Matti also) lead us to the briefing room. There we went thru the flying process. After that it was high time to go inside to the flight simulator because I was tender hooks. At that moment I felt again a little bit nervous, because my dream to fly was going to come true. Inside there was four seats, two in real cockpit and two at background.

My wife who was photographer and film maker sat at background, I took the left-hand seat, captain’s seat and my trainer right-hand seat which is first officer’s seat. Once more we went thru the process and Matti taught me once more the most important instruments which I had to survey during the flight. Normal process is that captain is flying and first office (also called co-pilot), surveys and controls instruments. If something happens, captain must fly really, because somebody must fly the air plane and that task is important.

So, after making correct settings for flight, we were ready to go thru the check list, to start engines, setting flaps and when everything was okay, I started first motor, then second motor. I added readings of rounds of both motors up to the calculated amount. Simulator trembled little bit and then my instructor released brakes.

We were rolling. I steered DC-9 in the middle of runway. My instructor gave to me info about the rolling speed by saying V1, V rotate and V2. At V1 it is possible to interrupt take-off. At V rotate nose wheel leaves the ground. V2 is minimum takeoff safety speed. So At V2 I pulled up the yoke and we were airborne.

I had to follow carefully the Attitude indicator and my climbing angle was 15 degrees. When copilot took flaps in, had problems with the climbing speed and the altitude. This is very normal and one must be aware of it. Slowly I reduced climbing angle to 10 degrees and finally to zero after passing 1000 and 2000 feet. After reaching flight level 3000 feet, I could take it easier. Now I had possibility to admire Helsinki at dawn. To maintain the flight level was not as easy as one might consider. When looking out of the cockpit’s window, I missed at that moment the correct flight level. So, I had to make adjustments. At first I made too strong adjustments and it meant that DC-9 was wobbling. It took “long time” to me to adjust the correct cruising speed smoothly. Matti told to me that it is easier to fly a real DC-9 than simulator.

When turning DC-9 for final, I again had problems to maintain correct speed and flight level. Landing we made in visual approach and one important thing was keep the air plane on line of runway. When wheels touched the runway, air craft made some bounces. I rolled on the middle of runway and stopped. First flight was over. Phew. Landing was bad, I confess. When repeating more flies, I started to manage better and better landing and so it went also to keep right flight level and speed when turning back for landing.

I went thru all this with my instructor after my first flight. Next flight went better. I also wanted one curiosity in my flying course. That was thru landing which means landing without stopping, accelerating and straight away to take-off. That was really nice. That I love very much.

Once we stopped our flight in the air just to admire Helsinki from the air trying to identify known places. The landing of last flight was made by ILS or let us say using Instrumental Landing System. It went really very good. My wife not even noticed that we made the landing and all this fabulous training was over!

During all my flying my wife took some photos and video. I captured many photos from videos and combined them with photos taken by my camera. Those photos during flight were not so excellent, because my wife could not use flash.

When driving back to our home I was excited yet. Next night I could not sleep much, but I was dreaming flying and I went yesterday thru again and again.

About Finnair’s DC-9 flight simulator:

This simulator is about 40 years old and during these years it has been in use during 70000 hours. Those people who were trained in it came from all over the world. Now it is open for everybody and instructors are ex-pilots. So was mine too and I know him since I was working as a flying officer onboard of Super Caravelle.

Maybe You noticed that I was flying only in visual and not using autopilot. To fly in visual is more interesting and it is just that which educates the best way.

The captain (me) in cockpit

The captain (me) in cockpit

Copilot shows to me wonders of buttons

Copilot shows to me wonders of buttons

Copilot shows to me where to start engines

Copilot shows to me where to start engines

I am starting right engine

I am starting right engine

I am starting left engine and at same time checking oil pressure and that are motors warming

I am starting left engine and at same time checking oil pressure and that are motors warming

Vertical Speedometer

Vertical Speedometer

Some things

Some things

Some of most important meters needed for flying

Some of most important meters needed for flying

More meters

More meters

Hmm

Hmm

Before going to the simulator

Before going to the simulator

Ex-pilot and me

Ex-pilot and me

Cockpit of DC-9 seen from the entrance. At background the view of flight deck

Cockpit of DC-9 seen from the entrance. At background the view of flight deck

Briefing of meters

Briefing of meters

Presenting some meter (maybe some fuel meter) to my wife

Presenting some meter (maybe some fuel meter) to my wife

She photographed and shot videos

She photographed and shot videos

All my routes which I flew

All my routes which I flew

Hey, this seems interesting. How I’ll mange it?

Hey, this seems interesting. How I’ll mange it?

It is all over now, I was not really relaxed as You see, no smile.

It is all over now, I was not really relaxed as You see, no smile.

Video:

Finnish Aviation Museum’s page

Aviation glossary

What is flight simulator

Finnair info in Wikipedia

ILS

DC-9-50 in numbers

Photo from Finnair’s DC-9-51 and many more airplanes. Also including some photos from “Moomins MD11”

50 Comments »

  1. Hey wheee hooo…! How exciting is THIS?
    … simulator flying is STILL flying, even if you don’t leave the ground. (Why else do real pilots use simulators?)

    I have had a experience of *actually* flying a 4 seater light aircraft, but at a safe height, in a straight line and sitting in the co-pilot seat with an experienced pilot next to me who could take the controls in a second. I only “flew” for a few minutes but it was such a buzz!!! (ok, technically I was only “maintaining course” LOL).

    What a brilliant Birthday present! A DC9 would have scared me rather, from the looks of your flight path you did REALLY well!!! and a through landing as well! yes I AM impressed!

    What a fabulous experience… certainly one you will never forget, *and* you had the bonus of meeting up with old work colleagues, I bet the other Matti enjoyed that too🙂

    btw, please tell your wife that for no-flash photos, she did a great job!

    Comment by kiwidutch — May 20, 2011 @ 08:27 | Reply

    • Hello Kiwidutch.

      Thank You. Flying is an experience. That was so nice to read that You have flew too, although a small air plane and in safe mode. It is nearly same to me. I “flew” Super Caravelle maybe about 3 seconds, but autopilot was on and the co-pilot was surveying all these seconds my “flying” with his hands on control unit. Of course this happened “thousand years” ago.

      Happy Friday!

      Comment by sartenada — May 20, 2011 @ 12:31 | Reply

  2. Fantastique ! Je suis impressionnée. Comment peut-on se rappeler de l’usage de tous ces cadrans dans le cockpit ?? Un magnifique reportage. Félicitations au photographe, au pilote et à son co-pilote🙂

    Comment by isathreadsoflife — May 20, 2011 @ 09:17 | Reply

    • Bonjour Isa.

      Merci beaucoup. T’as dit: “Comment peut-on se rappeler de l’usage de tous ces cadrans dans le cockpit ??”. Peut-être que c’est un mystère.🙂 Beaucoup travail et encore et encore.

      Je suis heureux si mon rapport a été assez bien pour comprendre difficulté réelle comment voler.

      Belle journée.

      Comment by sartenada — May 20, 2011 @ 12:37 | Reply

  3. WooooooooW !!!!! What a fantastic birthday present… You must have been in heaven… I’m sure this is an unforgettable experience. I’m so glad you had the opportunity to do this. And the reportage your wife did is truly interesting and well done, I have to congratulate her too…
    Oh, and… Happy Birthday of course🙂

    Comment by Tamara — May 20, 2011 @ 10:19 | Reply

    • Hi Tamara.

      Thank You. I am glad if my report makes clear that theory and practice are so different in this case.

      Happy Friday!

      Comment by sartenada — May 20, 2011 @ 12:39 | Reply

  4. Quelle merveilleux cadeau d’anniversaire! Wahouuuuu! Une expérience et un présent inoubliable. Merci du partage!

    Anne😉

    Comment by annejutras — May 20, 2011 @ 14:23 | Reply

    • Bonjour Anne.

      Merci d’avoir faite ta visit et ayant faite un commentaire belle. Oui, je suis heureux et encore aujourd’hui, j’ai de merveilleux souvenirs de cette journée spéciale!

      Belle journèe ä toi.

      Comment by sartenada — May 20, 2011 @ 14:33 | Reply

  5. Your wife gave you a marvelous birthday present — one you’ll never forget. I’m glad she was there to take pictures so you could share them with us. Your report on your flying experience is fantastic. Thank you for sharing your birthday present.

    Comment by seniorhiker — May 20, 2011 @ 16:20 | Reply

    • Hello George.

      Thank You. I tried my best when explaining the simulator training and at same time to give an idea how people work really in cockpit.

      Happy Friday!

      Comment by sartenada — May 20, 2011 @ 16:30 | Reply

  6. I am not a great fan of flying, but can recognise when someone else is enjoying the stuff of dreams! What an awesome day!

    Comment by lesliepaints — May 20, 2011 @ 17:46 | Reply

    • Hello Lesley.

      Thank You. It is fantastic that someday dreams can come true.

      Happy Sunday!

      Comment by sartenada — May 22, 2011 @ 08:52 | Reply

  7. Bonjour Matti,
    Beau cadeau d’anniversaire, des moments certainement inoubliables.
    Une bise pour “ton 8 mai”, avec un peu de retard, et très bon week-end à l’équipage !🙂

    Comment by Marion B. — May 20, 2011 @ 21:03 | Reply

    • Bonjour Marion.

      Merci beaucoup! Je vais le dire á mon équipage!🙂

      Belle journée á toi et ta famille!

      Comment by sartenada — May 22, 2011 @ 08:54 | Reply

  8. Happy Birthday Matti…you look like you had a ball!! My father was in the Royal Australian Air Force for 20 years when I was young…he did two tours of Vietnam as a rescue crewman in a helicopter. He then worked for the aircraft manufacturer Hawker de Havilland and supervised the building of 20 Blackhawk choppers for the Australian government. He was once allowed to ‘fly’ one for a little while and had the best time! Thank you for bringing back memories…

    Comment by convictstock — May 21, 2011 @ 02:50 | Reply

    • Hello Convictstock.

      Thank You commenting. What a story You have in Your family! Fantastic, really fantastic. Royal Australian Air Force. I even cannot imagine what it is to fly a war airplane or a helicopter.

      Happy Sunday!

      Comment by sartenada — May 22, 2011 @ 09:00 | Reply

  9. What an experience for you Matti! I’m glad you enjoyed it! Your wife is very thoughtful as well as being a very good photographer. It’s very good that you have those photos of your experience! And Happy (belated) Birthday!

    Comment by montucky — May 21, 2011 @ 05:18 | Reply

    • Hi Montucky.

      Thank You. Oh Yeah, the experience is something that I’ll never forget and it is “once a life” experience. Thank You saying that my wife is good photographer. She is I, I agree, but she is better video maker. Normally when we are on holiday, she shoots videos and I photos and so doing that way we are good team.

      I could have had possibility to take this “flying course” in English too, because I was aware of the flying glossary and the meaning of it, but I selected in Finnish, because I was “too” excited and I wanted to show to me myself and to my wife, that I had some capabilities to “fly”.

      Happy Sunday.

      Comment by sartenada — May 22, 2011 @ 09:11 | Reply

  10. Wow! What an awesome gift from your wife!

    Comment by Nadezhda Konovalova — May 21, 2011 @ 15:37 | Reply

    • Hello Nadezhda.

      Thank You. It was. Sometimes birthday gift can be something that is not an object, but experience. Lovely idea.

      Happy Sunday!

      Comment by sartenada — May 22, 2011 @ 09:14 | Reply

  11. You are lucky to have a lovely wife who knows what real boys want! It must have been a fun experience – next time you may try a Boeing 747 – or an Airbus A 380!

    Comment by truels — May 22, 2011 @ 20:41 | Reply

    • Hi Truels.

      Thank You leaving so nice comment. Well, I might consider next time to fly A 380, because it is enough big to me.🙂

      Comment by sartenada — May 23, 2011 @ 06:55 | Reply

  12. Happy belated birthday!
    I believe that must be the biggest birthday surprise for you.
    That was so cool!
    Your wife is such a thoughtful lady.
    I hope you can remember the buttons in the aeroplane.
    So many buttons… I am so confused. ;(

    Comment by London Caller — May 23, 2011 @ 01:00 | Reply

    • Hello London Caller.

      Thank You commenting. Well, buttons and buttons; happily I have zips in many of my clothes.🙂

      Comment by sartenada — May 23, 2011 @ 06:57 | Reply

  13. Happy Birthday. I am not going to show your post to my husband as I think he’d be so jealous. What a wonderful gift from your wife and it looks like you had great fun.

    Comment by Tammy McLeod — May 23, 2011 @ 15:17 | Reply

    • Hello Tammy.

      Thank You for Your comment and visiting my site.

      Of course You show my post to Your husband. If he is interested in this, then You search somewhere a flight simulator and let him fly. My wife would have had the opportunity to fly also, but she wanted that it is me who flies. Here it is possible to reserve more hours than three, but this was enough for my experience.

      Happy Monday!

      Comment by sartenada — May 23, 2011 @ 15:49 | Reply

  14. Very, very interesting. I’ve always loved airplanes and can look at them for hours.

    Comment by Neal — May 23, 2011 @ 22:40 | Reply

    • Hi Neal.

      Thank You. The world of flying and air planes is fantastic. Air planes give wings to the dreams. To travel far away is everybody’s dream, but to return to home is the best. Nothing can beat the home.

      Have a happy Tuesday!

      Comment by sartenada — May 24, 2011 @ 06:19 | Reply

  15. Your wife sure picked out a great birthday gift for you! It looks like you had a blast.

    Comment by kateri — May 25, 2011 @ 13:28 | Reply

    • Hi Kateri.

      That was great really, I loved it. Oh yeah, a big blast.🙂 Thank You commenting and for Your visit.

      Comment by sartenada — May 25, 2011 @ 13:36 | Reply

  16. I really enjoyed your report of the training before the flight and then the flights themselves. Your excitement comes through in your writing and you describe each stage in detail for someone who knows nothing about flying. That was great that you saw progress in your landing skills and control of the plane.Did you read about the pilot who became unconscious yesterday and his wife had to fly the plane for 40 minutes till he regained consciousness and landed the plane? You could now land a plane in an emergency like that. Well done and thank you for the post.

    Comment by jackiequeen — May 27, 2011 @ 23:20 | Reply

    • Thank You for Your very interested comment.

      The case You mentioned was unknown to me. The key word to keep airplane “safely” in the air is autopilot. It can take control of multitasks. Well, to land a commercial airplane is not so easy finally as one might believe. There are some things that one must to know. Some examples: the weight of airplane. There are basically three weights of an air craft. Take-off weight, zero fuel weight and landing weight. Take-off weight is needed for calculations at which speed airplane can safely to take off. Landing weight is needed to know at which speed airplane can safely land.

      One important thing is to check the loaded index from Balance Chart. It is very understandable that the load (baggage, cargo, mail) in different compartments has impact to airplanes balance. If You do not know that, then take a pencil and put it on Your finger. When You put it is in the middle of it, then it is in balance. Same is not exactly valid for airplanes. Their ideal position (taking account of fuel consumption) is that the nose is a little bit upper than tail.

      Also to put down landing gear, to lock them, flap settings, landing angle, reducing motor power, at final not to land at too high speed, to land in the middle of runway in spite of prevailing wind and finally to push nose wheel down after landing. Then to maintain airplane in the middle of runway when it is rolling fast, using brakes and putting motors into reverse Many of these tasks require rapid actions and that means that then one cannot be “asleep”. These were some ideas that came to my mind, because You understand that I am not even amateur, but a person who might have a slight idea about “how-to-do-landing”. Well, maybe I might manage, if somebody in the tower gives instructions, but I do not want to praise my capacities, because there are none. Well, I am not the best to explain all these things, but I hope You got the “idea”.

      Anyway, I suggest visiting flying simulator, because it is an experience that cannot be forgotten.

      I wish a very happy week-end to You and Yours.

      P.S. my video is ready in YouTube including photos and videos.

      Comment by sartenada — May 28, 2011 @ 11:52 | Reply

  17. Thank you Matti. Now I shall tell you my first and only flying lesson. I was 14 years. I was a mwmber of Air Training Corps. That was a voluntary, junior version of RAF. We were taken to an airfield on the mainland. We flew in dual seat, dual control light aircraft called “Chipmunk” I sat behind the pilot and held the controls. He flew across the sea to my Isle of Wight. I could see my island so clear, even my home. After 30 minutes we returned. That was my heaven – never repeated. After that I flew as tourist to Russia, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Armenia and to our own Channel Islands. Flying is wonderful. I visited the Canary Islands with my wife on a cruise ship two years ago. Most people were seasick. 40% had Norovirus. I was never airsick. I am new to Internet. But I use computers for 20 years.
    Warm regards to you and your wife,
    Clive

    Comment by Clive Anderson — May 29, 2011 @ 17:30 | Reply

    • Hi Clive.

      Thank You for Your visit and telling Your first flight experience!

      I wish that I would have been there.  I knew nothing about flying before I went to work in Finnair, but I learned a lot of airplanes and flying. Happily my wife love also flying, so when she is retired in next Novempber.. It was sad to read that people were sick from Norovirus!

      The world of Internet is wonderful and easy to learn to You, because You have used computers for so long time. Maybe You might also think to start blogging also? I love it and all these people here who visit my site and I their site. Our world is full of wonders and we have so much to learn from each others.

      Regards.

      Comment by sartenada — May 29, 2011 @ 17:53 | Reply

  18. Wooo..that’s so cool and exciting in the cockpit..Thanks for writing and sharing your ‘flying’ experience..
    I love watching airplanes taking off and landing which gives a very different feel and mood..incidentally, I’ve posted some shots of airplanes which I took recently🙂 Have a nice day!

    Comment by Anne — May 31, 2011 @ 12:39 | Reply

    • Hello Anne.

      Thank You. I guess that You did not know that Finnair started direct Singapore flights again. Flight time is 11 hours and 30 minutes.

      Comment by sartenada — May 31, 2011 @ 13:57 | Reply

  19. What a birthday present that was. Congratulations on your birthday. Looks like you had a lot of fun and your wife did a great job with the photos. I particularly liked the ones she or you took of the control panel. I had a friend whom had a similar birthday present. His wife purchased an Indianapolis 500 race car adventure for him. He was allowed to drive a race car around the mighty track. He still talks about it to this day.

    Comment by Preston — June 2, 2011 @ 17:20 | Reply

    • Hello Preston.

      You wrote very interesting comment. As a car fan, Your story cut a dash to me. I love driving fast and the only one place to do so legally is in Germany. My best is, if one can say so, is the speed 242 km/h or 150.4 mph. My car’s max speed is 250 km/h or 155 mph, but it is electronically limited to that. In case if no limitation, then my car would go 280km/h or 173 mph.

      To drive fast among real traffic is always a huge risk to drivers as to fellow drivers. So, now You understand why I was so interested when I read what kind of present Your friend received. Sigh, I wish that I would be able also someday drive in some Indy race.

      Thank You for commenting.

      Comment by sartenada — June 3, 2011 @ 06:22 | Reply

  20. Hola Matti!!!! Qué gusto saber de tí nuevamente! En primer lugar, FELIZ CUMPLEAÑOS!!!! aunque un mes tardío. Me ha encantado el regalo de cumpleaños que te hizo tu esposa. Qué dichoso!!! Debe de ser muy interesante estar en tu lugar en ese simulador de vuelos! Seguro, yo en mi ignorancia me volvería loca y tocaría todo los botones, encendería todas las luces y luego salgo corriendo jajajajajaja!!!!! Te felicito. Gracias por escribirme y mostrarme ese tablero maravilloso que creo que no hay una persona sobre todo el planeta que no deseara sentarse frente a él y sentir que está volando!!! Saludes cariñosos. Por cierto, eso de que tu español está mal no es cierto. Sabés muy buen español, sigue adelante…

    Comment by consueloq — June 21, 2011 @ 18:44 | Reply

    • Hola Consuelo.

      ¡ Como bueno comentario que me gusta muchisíma ! Muchas graciar por tu visitia.

      Te deseo muy feliz miércoles!

      Comment by sartenada — June 22, 2011 @ 16:43 | Reply

  21. Fascinating post Matti. I know you enjoyed yourself. An amazing experience. I have flown the bigger aircraft on the PC simulator and it is quite a different experience to the little Cessna 152 I have flown for real although the flight principles are the same of course, it’s just the bigger aircraft feel so sluggish in comparision. You make an adjustment and it takes a little while for that adjustment to take effect by which time you’ve over compensated etc. I would love to have had the experience you had.🙂

    Comment by Chillbrook — January 19, 2013 @ 18:07 | Reply

    • Hi Chillbrook.

      Thank You very much from Your kind comment. I checked just, what is the situation today concerning that DC-9 simulator and I did found that it is no more available, but they changed to MD-11 simulator!!! MD-11 was big aircraft, because it had capacity for 285 passengers and its max range was 13,230 km / 8,225 miles. You can “easily” imagine how this kind of jumbo jet is to fly even in simulator. I guess awesome. Welcome to Helsinki sometimes. We have there also great aviation museum.

      Have a great Sunday!

      Comment by Sartenada — January 20, 2013 @ 12:55 | Reply

  22. Very enjoyable post. I, too, was “forced” to retire when the digital age replaced the work I do. Now, it’s photography, exploration, and discovering who I really am! I wish you well with your retirement and a happy life.

    Comment by I am J — January 24, 2014 @ 18:25 | Reply

    • Hello Jackie.

      Thank You for Your kind comment. In the beginning, I felt myself useless in society. I got a good start, because my daughter was teaching information technology in Chile during 3 months. So, I traveled to visit her with my granddaughter. This gave to me some perspective and slowly in my mind raised the idea to start photographing and later to blog. I was very busy when working and I did not have time to explore my own country. Now when my wife is also retired, we both have time to explore our country.

      Have a wonderful weekend.

      Comment by Sartenada — January 25, 2014 @ 11:22 | Reply

  23. Que hermoso regalo de cumpleaños!
    Creo que tu vida haya sido muy interesante y que seguirá siéndolo por muchos , muchos años…..!
    Me encanto esta entrada !

    Comment by 76sanfermo — January 25, 2014 @ 14:24 | Reply

    • Hola Anna.

      ¡Qué alegría de leer tu comentario Anna! Le conto una pequeña historia acerca de mi primera vuelo. Como tu lo sabes también se necesitan azafatas para la seguridad en los vuelos. Un día, una azafata vino enferma antes del vuelo. Era tarde en la noche y para buscar otra azafata era un problema por supuesto. Así, fui seleccionado para este vuelo, para mi primer vuelo, pero prometiendo que no servir las comidas. Así que yo estaba sólo para la seguridad.

      El vuelo voló a Milán y tardaba dos horas y cinquenta minutos y todos los tripulantes de cabina estaban ocupados. Así que me ofrecí a ayudarles con las comidas, porque no podía verlos corriendo aquí y allá! En aquellos días cada comida tenía que llevar a cada pasajero. Carritos de catering fueron inventados más tarde. Bueno, todo pasó bien y me sentí que estaba necesario y me sentí feliz. Todo esto pasió en el comienzo de los años 70.🙂

      Muchas gracias por tu comentario. Besitos.

      Comment by Sartenada — January 25, 2014 @ 15:18 | Reply

  24. What a lovely gift, that was some experience. Your wife did a great job as photograper.

    Comment by Tokeloshe — June 5, 2015 @ 22:33 | Reply

    • Hi Linda.

      I am glad that You saw this post!!! My wife shot photos and videos at same time, by changing them nicely.

      Happy weekend!

      Comment by Sartenada — June 6, 2015 @ 11:17 | Reply

  25. Browsing a little tonight…. enjoyed your experience in the simulator. It looks quite daunting. But I remember taking a few lessons in a Piper Cub many years ago, and at first it’s all foreign. By lesson number 5, it was becoming familiar enough to be enjoyable. I bet the newer planes are quite different now, digital instramentation vs. analog, for instance and so much automation. Thanks for the view. Marty (M :-))

    Comment by mvschulze — March 30, 2016 @ 01:06 | Reply

    • Hi Marty.

      Thank You. I would love to visit someday, digital flight Simulator, because it must be awesome. I Appreciate Your comment. Thank You.

      Have a great day!

      Comment by Sartenada — March 30, 2016 @ 13:33 | Reply


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